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PostPosted: Fri 3:46, 30 Aug 2013    Post subject: NASA may abandon plans for moon base-spun1

NASA may abandon plans for moon base,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]
I definitely am not just one of those ninnies who come here to whine about money being wasted on science. But, it strikes me that manned missions are extremely expensive for what they accomplish.
Perhaps we'd be better off focusing on proplusion technologies and robotic missions for the time being until we have a better propulsion system (chemical rockets require long trips and high fuel making everything much larger and much more expensive) or a space elevator. We're able to probably work out and build an area elevator for the price of a manned mission to Mars,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], which would make a later Mars mission easier and less expensive.
A space elevator would be a superb idea. But the problem is,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], if NASA started one they'd never finish it. They would spend billions then abandon the project and choose to do something else instead.
NASA hasn't really finished anything. Not really the Apollo project,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]. they actually threw away two Saturn 5s ready to fly! They turned one right into a tourist attraction and wasted the second on the pointless Skylab sideshow - throwing away a multi big investment in order to save several pennies.
But someday someone else will develop a space elevator, probably Japan or China. really wants to return to the moon is that now China really wants to do it. Reveal that we're still the toughest kids on the market. The stuff about while using moon like a launching point to Mars is really a screen.
But fundamentally it is a "been there, done that" proposition.
Manned missions to Mars ought to be next. The moon mission comes from a president who had the science ambition of a pea. Obama hinted at attempting to revitalize the public's enthusiasm for space,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], as with the original Apollo program. The modest policy he's presented so far won't do this. I'm hoping he'll basically be pushed towards something. cooler. Plus much more historically significant. And muchmuchmuch more motivational.
Pretty soon on the Moon we'll need to say "hi, neighbor!" On Mars, we would be home about the range, and people would start referring to "the Wild West".
Hrm, I'd rather see a space elevator, human-computer direct link,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], conciousness uploads, self aware AI, organ cloning, or at best a cure for cancer than a Mars mission.
As likely to spend a trillion dollars on the scientific Manhattan project, i quickly think finding working and cheap fusion energy or perhaps a cure for old age would be far cooler. Think about it - as we could perfect human cloning (nearly there) along with consiousness upload and download (being done),[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and human hibernation (also being done) - you could have a nice young body waiting for you when you get of sufficient age to die! That would be superior than spending 10 years and trillions of dollars sending some rocket jock to put a united states flag on Mars?
MANHATTAN PROJECT TO CURE DEATH!
"Think about it - if we could perfect human cloning (nearly there) along with consiousness upload and download (being done),[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and human hibernation (also being done) - you might have a nice young body awaiting you when you are getting of sufficient age to die!" - Steve is my middle name.
"Think about it",[link widoczny dla zalogowanych].
As we did what you say and effectively look for a cure for death, within a very short time the earth would be so massively overpopulated that it would no longer be able to sustain mankind and hunger,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], homelessness, unemployment and poverty would be widespread.
We have to make developments in going to and colonising other planets and eventually other solar systems to guarantee the continuation from the human species. Super long life is of little use when the Earth is about to be hit by an asteroid.
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It will be a setback not to plan for a permanent moon base. The big difference from a moon base and also the space station is that astronauts could go out and do something useful.
They could explore the moon, experiment with building techniques, find ice and evenutally try to invent methods to grow food etc. Everything they did would also be there for the next astronauts. If you want discoveries and progress, In my opinion you need to put people inside a place for a long time and give them the chance to experiment and inovate.
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